Succession S4, Episode 7: Why Shiv's Big Pregnancy Reveal Hasn't Broken Yet - Looper (2024)

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Contains spoilers for "Succession" Season 4 Episode 7 — "Tailgate Party"

Everyone on "Succession" keeps secrets. It's the name of the game as these rich, wannabe-CEOs toss around business word salads and quietly plot against one another to fill the throne vacated by the late Logan Roy (Brian Cox). His daughter Shiv (Sarah Snook), though, might be keeping one of the more explosive secrets around, at least as far as her future is concerned. In the aftermath of Logan's death, it's revealed, through a phone call with her doctor, that Shiv is pregnant; considering the timeline of the entire series is about a year, the baby's father is, in all likelihood, Shiv's estranged husband Tom Wambsgans (Matthew Macfadyen).

The weird part here is that, since Shiv's pregnancy was revealed, nobody — including Shiv — has said a single word about it. While filming, Snook was pregnant in real life, but the decision for Shiv to also be pregnant came about later than you might think. "Tailgate Party's" directors,Shari Springer Berman and Robert Pulcini, spoke to Vanity Fair about how this choice came to be — and according to Berman, when they signed onto the episode, Shiv's pregnancy reveal didn't exist yet.

"We knew that Sarah was pregnant,"Berman told the outlet."But we didn't know that Shiv was going to be pregnant. We didn't have that specific piece of information when we shot it." Ultimately, Jesse Armstrong told Berman and Pulcini that Shiv would be pregnant, but as she recalled, "we didn't know when the audience was going to find out."

Shiv's journey into motherhood is fraught, to say the least

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To say that Shiv's relationship to parenting and motherhood is... complicated, to say the least. At the end of Season 3, her own mother, Caroline (Harriet Walter) told Shiv that she regretted having children and that she wished she'd simply gotten a bunch of dogs instead; she also tells her daughter that not everyone is "made to be mothers," creating clear questions in Shiv's mind despite the fact that she and Tom were exploring fertilizing her eggs at the time.

Making matters worse, Shiv and Tom's relationship has been on the rocks since the end of Season 3 as well, when Tom betrayed his wife's trust to ally himself with her powerful father Logan. (Shiv's relationship with Logan wasn't exactly amazing either; basically, she's set up to fail considering she was raised by wolves.) They're separated by the time Season 4 kicks off, and though they rekindle an intimate relationship during Episode 6, "Living+," it certainly doesn't mean they're getting back together.

So why hasn't Shiv at least told the man who's probably the baby's father?Lorene Scafaria, the director of "Living+," had an idea that she shared with Vanity Fair: "There's still a lot for Shiv to unpack, between losing a parent and having a child—the two biggest seismic shifts in someone's life—plus whatever complications she's feeling for Tom." This definitely feels right, but at a certain point, the news will have to break — before Shiv's water does.

The blowout between Tom and Shiv is a bad sign for their future family

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With "Succession" coming to a close, it feels like the actors are preparing their best Emmy reels for the next awards season — and Macfadyen and Snook definitely entered that conversation in "Tailgate Party."Holding a pre-election bash at their lavish apartment, the couple steps out onto the balcony and has what becomes a horrible, blowout fight. Tom tells Shiv that she's a selfish person who shouldn't have children; Shiv fires back that he's a "hick" and "servile" and that he's only with her for her power, which he has now stolen. It's ugly, vicious, and the most honest conversation they've ever had.

Berman spoke to the brutal honesty of the scene, comparing it to Edward Albee's famous play. ""it felt very 'Who's Afraid of Virginia Woolf,'" she said. "It was incredibly uncomfortable to shoot for everybody, because it's so raw. They go there in a way that people in Succession don't really—saying directly what they mean."

"So much of Succession dialogue is half committal," Pulcini agreed. "There's so much subtext in every line. To get a scene like that, especially between these two, was so exciting. The characters have been through such a labyrinth.... Lines that direct in Succession are very powerful."

The final season of "Succession" is airing now, with new episodes every Sunday at 9 P.M. on HBO.

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FAQs

Was Shiv really pregnant in Succession season 4? ›

Moments after Snook was finished filming the heartbreaking scene, she revealed her real-life pregnancy to the show's cast and crew.

Who is the father of Shiv Roy's baby? ›

Shiv is pregnant with Tom's baby, conceived just before their marriage collapsed, as Shiv softly cooed to him, "I don't love you." At the last possible minute, Shiv voted to let her family's company be sold to Swedish tech weirdo Lukas Matsson (Alexander Skarsgård), who handed the CEO position to Tom.

Why did Shiv keep the baby? ›

Only Shiv carries a possible heir to the company. This is, I think, the pivotal moment in her decision-making. What she ultimately chooses is the family she is building, not the one that built her: she chooses to save her baby from the toxicity of that inheritance, and in doing so get its father back.

Did Shiv tell Tom she is pregnant? ›

After Tom says Shiv “sort of” killed her father Logan (Brian Cox), she reveals to him that she's pregnant with his child. The revelation, however, is soured when Tom questions whether she's even telling the truth. “Is that even true? Or is that like a new position or a tactic?” Tom retorts back to a dismayed Shiv.

Why did Shiv gain so much weight? ›

The reason behind Shiv Roy's weight gain

But in seasons 3 and 4 of the TV series Succession, she was so out of shape, which made viewers curious. So, what was the reason behind Sarah Snook's weight gain? Surprisingly, Sarah Snook was pregnant in parts of seasons 3 and 4 of Success, and this made her add weight.

How long was Shiv pregnant? ›

After Logan's death, we see Shiv's doctor informing her that the results of the amniocentesis are encouraging and we learn that she's less than 20 weeks pregnant. It is the day after her father's death, so a muted reaction seems appropriate, but Shiv shows no happiness, or even relief, when given this news.

Is Nate the father of Shiv's baby? ›

(Plus, executive producer and writer Lucy Prebble confirmed on the official Succession podcast that Tom is the father.)

Are Roman and Shiv twins? ›

While the series is vague about their ages, their half brother Connor, who is the oldest, is in his fifties and claims he is 'two decades older' than them. However, one defining suggestion that they aren't twins is that on the HBO website, Shiv is referred to as the 'youngest of the Roy children'.

Why does Shiv vote against Kendall? ›

Succession's Sarah Snook explains the reason for Shiv's pivotal vote in series finale. Snook says Shiv did not appreciate seeing Kendall put his feet up on Logan Roy's desk. Feet. Oh sure, they're useful for walking around on, but they can also get you into a lot of trouble.

Why does Shiv look different? ›

Costume and hair changes indicate Shiv's quest for power and authority in the male-dominated world of the Roys in Succession.

What happens to Greg in Succession? ›

In the end, Tom keeps Greg around, despite the fact that he sold him out by telling Kendall about Matsson's plan to ditch Shiv. Tom tells Greg, “I got you,” and puts that purple sticker on his forehead. The same sticker that was being used to divide up Logan's things.

Why did Roman say Shiv was the bloodline? ›

Roman responds by saying that Shiv is the true bearer of the family's bloodline. He calls Kendall's children—an adopted daughter and, Roman hints, a son possibly conceived via sperm donor—a “pair of randos.” Roman's implication is that they aren't real Roys.

Is the actress who plays Shiv really pregnant? ›

Snook also confirmed that she was pregnant while filming the final season of Succession as Shiv Roy but joked that no beachballs or umbrellas were needed to cover up her smaller bump at the time. “I mean, you couldn't super tell,” Snook said with a laugh. “It's not super big, at least at the moment.”

Does Shiv love Tom or not? ›

“I may not love you,” Shiv told Tom once, “but I do love you.” Now, she tells him, she doesn't even like him. As she finishes the thought, you can see the awareness spreading across her face, saying it to hurt him but realizing its truth.

Who is the father of Shiv in Succession? ›

Siobhan "Shiv" Roy is the tritagonist of the show as the youngest child and only daughter of Logan Roy. She is portrayed by Sarah Snook.

Why did Shiv vote against Kendall? ›

Succession's Sarah Snook explains the reason for Shiv's pivotal vote in series finale. Snook says Shiv did not appreciate seeing Kendall put his feet up on Logan Roy's desk. Feet. Oh sure, they're useful for walking around on, but they can also get you into a lot of trouble.

Is Shiv a twin in Succession? ›

The official HBO character profile for Shiv calls her "the youngest child in the Roy family," meaning that she is not Roman's twin according to the website.

Do Kendall Shiv and Roman have the same mother? ›

Lady Caroline Alexandra Helena St John Collingwood is the second wife of Logan Roy and mother of Kendall, Roman, and Shiv. She is portrayed by Harriet Walter.

Are Kendall's kids adopted? ›

It was previously theorized that both of Kendall's children were adopted, but in the Succession finale, Roman reveals that only one of them was adopted. The other was conceived via a sperm donor.

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